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RBY 2U-L (Under1U) Victreebel [GP Ready]

Discussion in 'Individual Analyses' started by Ortheore, Mar 19, 2016.

  1. Ortheore

    Ortheore Host Emeritus

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    Victreebel [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Type: Grass / Poison
    Stats: 80 | 105 | 65 | 100 | 70


    Introduction

    Victreebel presents a unique threat, accompanied by some gaping flaws. It possesses potent offensive stats, both physically and specially, as well as access to moves such as Wrap, Razor Leaf and Swords Dance. However, this considerable offensive potential is often overshadowed by its ability to support the team, as it has both Sleep Powder and Stun Spore while its Grass typing allows it to check many notable threats, particularly Raichu. These traits make Victreebel one of the few pokemon in RBY that can run two distinct sets, affording it considerable versatility and unpredictability. Unfortunately, the flip side of its typing is its downfall, as Poison typing ensures it cannot resist Ground and that it is weak to Psychic types, a massive hindrance when Hypno is such a significant threat. Furthermore, its speed is lacklustre and it struggles to harm Haunter. Overall, Victreebel is able to hold its own, and it certainly brings a host of unique traits that might make it worthy of a teamslot.

    Status Spreader

    Victreebel
    - Sleep Powder
    - Razor Leaf
    - Wrap
    - Stun Spore / Hyper Beam

    Set Details

    The goal of this set is to spread status throughout the opposing team and gradually whittle opponents down. Sleep Powder is one of Victreebel's most valuable assets, same for Razor Leaf. Wrap is used to weaken opposing walls, especially if they've been paralysed, and also to pivot out into attackers such as Rhydon, giving them a free switch. Stun Spore is perhaps the more consistent of the choices available in the last slot as a means of spreading paralysis, commonly hitting Hypno and Kadabra with it. Hyper Beam is an alternative as a means of picking off weakened foes.

    Swords Dance Sweeper

    Victreebel
    - Swords Dance
    - Razor Leaf
    - Hyper Beam
    - Sleep Powder / Stun Spore / Wrap

    Set Details

    The objective for this set is to find an opening to set up and then sweep the opposing team, or at least break some holes in it. Swords Dance is obviously vital for this set's success, while Razor Leaf gives Victreebel valuable coverage and a means of hitting hard without the need to set up. Hyper Beam is Victreebel's main attack, and after a boost its power is quite considerable. Sleep Powder is a good option in the last slot as a means of securing an opening for Victreebel, while spreading paralysis via Stun Spore is another good way of preparing for a sweep. Lastly, Wrap is an option because it's an excellent move and effective at whittling opponents into Hyper Beam range, however it does depend on surprise factor somewhat, as such a set otherwise faces competition from Tentacruel.

    Other Options

    Probably the most notable other option Victreebel possesses is Body Slam, however its damage output is disappointing, even after a Swords Dance boost. Growth exists, but is a poor option as Razor Leaf's critical hits ignore stat boosts, while Victreebel's next best STAB option is Mega Drain.

    Checks and Counters

    Fortunately, there exist several means of handling Victreebel. By far the best option is Haunter, which resists Razor Leaf and is immune to normal attacks. Secondly, Psychic types, namely Hypno and Kadabra, make effective checks as they are able to hammer Victreebel with STAB Psychic. Dodrio loathes status, but otherwise outspeeds Victreebel and threatens it with Drill Peck. In fact, fast physical attackers generally make good checks if they can avoid status, as Victreebel's physical defense is mediocre. Lastly, if Victreebel is using Wrap, paralysing it becomes extremely important in handling it
     
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    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    Maybe a comparison with Tentacruel might be good at the end of discussing the SD set, since SD+Wrap is something that Tenta runs on and the differences are pretty small, but mention the reduced predictability of victreebel being a draw, sure you can figure out the rest better than I can.
     
  3. Ortheore

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    Good point, I'll get right onto it, I think in general I've neglected to discuss Bel's versatility so yeah it's a thing to address
     

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