ADV Ubers Viability Rankings

Welcome to the ADV 1B Viability Ranking Thread! In case you're not familiar with the concept, we place Pokémon in certain ranks here, based on their impact on the tier as well as their general viability in the tier. This is an excellent help while teambuilding and it serves as a general outline of the tier. Furthermore it is used in our formation of the tier below.

If you feel that a Pokémon is misplaced, feel free to make a post about it - that's what this thread is for. As long as you are reasonably sensible and courteous this thread should run smoothly.

Pokémon are sorted into the respective categories based on how well they perform their roles. Within each ranking Pokemon are listed alphabetically.

S Rank

These Pokémon are the most effective Pokémon in the metagame. Their offensive and defensive prowess, as well as versatility, and ability to fulfil a variety of important roles lend themselves to this.

groudon.png
Groudon
kyogre.png
Kyogre
latias.png
Latias
latios.png
Latios

A Rank

These Pokemon perform significant roles in the metagame, and perform them very well, however they are not the most dominating forces.

A+

blissey.png
Blissey
deoxys-attack.png
Deoxys-A
mewtwo.png
Mewtwo
snorlax.png
Snorlax

A

forretress.png
Forretress
ho-oh.png
Ho-Oh
lugia.png
Lugia
magneton.png
Magneton

A-
jirachi.png
Jirachi
rayquaza.png
Rayquaza
regice.png
Regice
skarmory.png
Skarmory

B Rank

These Pokemon are strong choices in the metagame, but perform less important roles or are less consistent than Pokémon in the Rank above. They have larger flaws than Pokémon in above ranks, or face greater competition from similar Pokemon, reducing their usefulness.

B+

deoxys-defense.png
Deoxys-D
gengar.png
Gengar
kabutops.png
Kabutops
metagross.png
Metagross
omastar.png
Omastar
registeel.png
Registeel
steelix.png
Steelix
umbreon.png
Umbreon

B

aerodactyl.png
Aerodactlyl
deoxys-speed.png
Deoxys-S
exeggutor.png
Exeggutor
qwilfish.png
Qwilfish
salamence.png
Salamence
shedinja.png
Shedinja
slaking.png
Slaking
tyranitar.png
Tyranitar
wobbuffet.png
Wobbuffet

B-

flygon.png
Flygon
jumpluff.png
Jumpluff
ludicolo.png
Ludicolo
raikou.png
Raikou
regirock.png
Regirock
shiftry.png
Shiftry

C Rank

These Pokemon are more infrequent sights in the metagame, particularly in top level matches, but are nevertheless viable Pokemon. They are less effective in the metagame than Pokémon in above ranks, but are effective with proper support.

heracross.png
Heracross
lanturn.png
Lanturn
mew.png
Mew
ninjask.png
Ninjask
starmie.png
Starmie
zapdos.png
Zapdos
 

Ortheore

Emeritus
2 1 3 3 3 1 2 2
What are people's thoughts on Cloyster? Like Forre it can Spike, Spin and boom, while it gets decent STAB options. Of course, it's total Ogre fodder, even more so than Forre and it's susceptible to Toxic, but I think it could be viable (haven't yet tested). At the very least it doesn't get bopped by Mag.

Also I feel like Gengar should drop to B. Its stats are just too disappointing imo. Offensively it lacks the firepower to muscle through a lot of pokemon, especially the Latis, while any status/Taunt shenanigans are hampered by its bulk and the fact that between Bliss and Latias it can't get far on status alone. On that note, it's too frail to have much use against everything except the most passive pokemon in the tier, things like Forre, Skarm and Bliss. I mean if the Latis weren't around it would be amazing, but atm it just gets completely shut down by them, and at least one of them is one basically every team.
 

Ortheore

Emeritus
2 1 3 3 3 1 2 2
Illusion's post in the suspect discussion thread mentioned Claydol and Quag. I can definitely see the appeal behind Clay (ground immune, rock res, spin), Quag seems pretty bloody mediocre tho, should we rank them?
 
What does Claydol do? It has spin and boom, thats all. It wins nothing from its ground Immunity since most Groudon run HP Ghost or Toxic. Dont rank it imo.
Quag actually can work on rain stall teams as Fireburn mentioned in a post on Smogon yesterday. But there are still better options like Lanturn.
So my suggestions:
Claydol -> unranked
Quagsire -> C or C-
 

Ortheore

Emeritus
2 1 3 3 3 1 2 2
Hmmm we probably ought to update this. Kyogre is gone, theorymon would indicate that Swift Swimmers are no longer viable, Ho-oh gets better, as does TTar. Chlorophyll users go up. I need to test tho lol
 
Hmmm we probably ought to update this. Kyogre is gone, theorymon would indicate that Swift Swimmers are no longer viable, Ho-oh gets better, as does TTar. Chlorophyll users go up. I need to test tho lol
Well, we should make a new rankings for 1C tbh
 
Top