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RBY 4U (Under3U) Venomoth [GP Ready]

Discussion in 'Individual Analyses' started by Peasounay, Jul 11, 2016.

  1. Peasounay

    Peasounay qui peut me stopper Host Emeritus

    Sep 29, 2015
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    Venomoth [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Type: Bug / Poison
    Stats: 70 | 65 | 60 | 90 | 90


    Venomoth is a top 4U pokemon. It’s the best sleeper of the tier, it’s fast, it can spread status, and it can chip the opposite team quite easily throughout the game. It’s also one of the best answers to Nidoking (which is the most dangerous pokemon in the tier) since it can switch in Earthquake up to twice per game and threat it with damage and status. Venomoth is also a very strong lead against Blastoise and it has a decent match-up against Poliwag. Overall, it should be on nearly every team you build.


    - Sleep Powder
    - Stun Spore
    - Psychic
    - Double-Edge / Mega Drain

    Set Details

    Double powder gives to Venomoth the ability to efficiently spread statuts through the opposite team. Psychic is your strongest and most spammable move, hitting Nidoking and opposite Venomoth for super effective damage. It can also cause a special drop on pokemon such as Porygon which can be interesting in some situations. Double-Edge 2HKOs Abra (OHKO with a crit), a good Venomoth answer. Mega Drain is nice to dissuade Slowpoke and is nice vs Omastar too, the recovery is also welcomed. The tier is super water infested and the only common Mega drain resist is other Venomoth.

    Checks and Counters

    The Fire types Arcanine and Rapidash are the best Venomoth answers given that they force it out with the threat of very high damage. They can take Psychics quite easily, and they can even block Sleep Powder if they’re paralysed. Slowpoke is a good switch-in too since it takes Venomoth’s hits like a champ. It can also threat it with Thunder Wave, Amnesia set-up, and powerful Psychics. Porygon can switch-in to force Venomoth out since it doesn’t want to take a Thunder Wave or a Psychic. You have to be careful if your Porygon is paralysed though due to the possibility of a special drop or a critical hit (17.6%). Pokemon such as Blastoise and Omastar can also come in given their bulk and raw power, but they’re not too difficult to switch into. Abra can go one on one against Venomoth but doesn’t like switching in that much due to the possiblity of the opponent using Double-Edge/Stun Spore or getting a special drop.

    Paralysing Venomoth is overall a good way of handling it since it’s much more manageable afterwards. Any of the pokemon above can do it, alongside Tangela who can also switch-in and set up. Unfortunately, it can’t do much in return.
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2016
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  2. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

    May 4, 2014
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    I feel like Mega Drain could move up to being in the set details, it's not so bad. Double Edge is still mainly better but there's quite a few possible situations where you could make good use of it. Also yea Tangela can only status it, unless it has a normal-type attack it does nothing back. A +6 Mega Drain still does fuck all to moth. +6 Tangela Mega Drain vs. Venomoth: 39-46 (11.3 - 13.4%) -- possible 8HKO. Even Body Slam is stronger. Tangela Body Slam vs. Venomoth: 59-70 (17.2 - 20.4%) -- possible 5HKO

    Great analysis otherwise.
  3. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    Peasounay can u mention that ^ ???

    Mega Drain is nice to dissuade slowpoke and is nice vs omastar too which moth is actually ok-ish versus, which is nice b/c oma's a bit of a powerhouse, and the recovery is ok. The tier is super water infested and the only common mega drain resist is other venomoth.

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