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User Ebola To Be Unbanned

Discussion in 'Pokémon Perfect News' started by CALLOUS, Dec 26, 2019.

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  1. CALLOUS

    CALLOUS YouTube.com/CALLOUSnarrates Leader

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    On Monday I called for our first official staff vote during my tenure as site leader. The question at hand was whether or not to unban user Ebola, who has been banned from Pokemon Perfect for excessive toxicity, and then ban evading, for a significant amount of time. Voting was open to all staff members with access to our staff room in the Pokemon Perfect Discord and almost everyone chose to vote. Voters were given three options- “Stay banned”, “Unban” or “Abstain”. While the most popular vote ended up being “Abstain”, “Unban” got a couple more votes than “Stay banned”. In fact, only one staff member voted “Stay banned”. To me that is a clear indication that while many of us, including me, are hesitant/unsure about unbanning Ebola, only one of us was straight up opposed to it. As such, Ebola will be unbanned from Pokemon Perfect with the clear understanding that the behavior that got him banned in the first place will absolutely not be tolerated and he is fully expected to behave respectfully and follow all rules or he will simply be banned again.

    While votes are sometimes a great thing, as they give everyone an opportunity to be heard and have input, when to unban members, on principle, should not be a “when the staff feels like it” kind of thing. Bans should have a predetermined amount of time attached to them when they’re handed out. Going forward, while I of course hope to have to ban as few users as possible, if a user is banned we will make it clear how long the ban will be in effect and user will be set free after “serving their time” if you will. We do, of course, reserve the right to ban any given user indefinitely if need be.

    Finally, regarding our two remaining banned users, Lord Ninjax and Konzern, who, like Ebola, were both banned before I was in charge, this is where I stand- In Ninjax’s case I’m open to putting that to a vote at some point in the future, the same way we just did with Ebola, and going from there. In Konzern’s case it’s not even up for discussion. That user will be banned indefinitely for the entire duration of my leadership here. Hopefully going forward situations like this can be avoided.

    As always I’m happy to address any questions or feedback.

    Thank you.
    -CALLOUS
     
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  2. GGFan

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    We know the real reason why Konzern isn't coming back: Community - Hiya, looking for adv and rby tutoring | Pokémon Perfect

    My messages on Discord:

    No surprise that ebola was unbanned but ninjax and konzern weren't.
    Community - Hiya, looking for adv and rby tutoring | Pokémon Perfect
    Community - Hiya, looking for adv and rby tutoring | Pokémon Perfect


    This isn't even Pokemon Perfect anymore. May as well rename the place "Eggopolis" or something.
    Community - Eb0la has been banned for 6 months. | Pokémon Perfect
    Community - Eb0la has been banned for 6 months. | Pokémon Perfect


    Obviously, Ebola has come a long way and has proven he has reformed since attempting to bypass his tournament ban and blatantly insulting other people by.....having an account on Smogon?

    I actually don't have anything against Ebola even if he is generally annoying, but this is blatant Smogon favoritism and hypocrisy at its finest. I don't understand why Ebola would be unbanned but Konzern's life sentence wouldn't be lifted. The only difference between the two is that Ebola wasn't challenged by Callous to a set, got embarrassed, and had the games put up on Youtube (hence the infamous "top 19 ADV player" message).

    I would honestly give Konzern a second chance before Ebola, anyway. He was incredibly dedicated and passionate during WCOPP. I'm sure Golden Gyarados would attest to how hard Konzern helped him prepare for that set against Troller in the semi finals tiebreaker. I've never seen a manager work that hard to help his player win a game, and I was on M Dragon's team two years ago.

    As for Ninjax, again, he beat Callous which prompted that video response a while back, so the decision to only unban Ebola was obviously politically motivated. Ebola has an account on Smogon and plays actively there, so bringing him back may earn you brownie points. Konzern is banned on Smogon, on the other hand, so of course we can't bring him back.

    I would also like to note that Konzern only cheated in PPL 3 (not on my team, though. He was in cahoots with Ninjax elsewhere). In week 3 of WCOPP 1 he noticed a loophole in the rules and took advantage of it, which, as cowardly as it may seem, was well within his rights as manager. in PPL 3 I removed him from my team early on; it was Mister Tim who decided to pick him up in the midseason. Players cheat on Smogon all the time, whether it be ghosting, abusing the rules, etc, but are never given the life sentence. I hate to compare Pokemon Perfect with the epicenter of stupidity because I like to see them as two separate entities, but sadly this isn't even Pokemon Perfect anymore. Ebola has committed far more transgressions than Konzern on Pokemon Perfect, yet is being given a second chance because he networks on Smogon and didn't embarrass the "leader" like Konzern did before the SPL meltdown.

    Overall, we have set the following standards:

    ~Cheating one time results in being banned for life.
    ~Harassing other people, hurling insults with racist implications, numerous attempts at bypassing your tournament ban, and cheating multiple times results in being banned for one year as long as you aren't banned on Smogon and win sometimes, and as long as you don't embarrass the "leader" of the site by beating him after he makes fun of you.

    Welcome to SmogonJr. Enjoy your stay.
     
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  3. magic9mushroom

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    Where and how did Ebola cheat?

    (not disputing, just curious)
     
  4. CALLOUS

    CALLOUS YouTube.com/CALLOUSnarrates Leader

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    He had been banned for extreme toxicity, not for cheating, though he then attempted to ban evade and alt into various tournaments. I’m not sure if “cheating” is the right word for the latter, as it’s not the same as something like ghosting/being ghosted, but it’s most certainly against the rules.
     
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    Wrong again. Amazing how low this organization has fallen over the course of a week or so. We're now pretending this never happened because "he 1 sum gaymz on Smogin:" Community - The Global Tournaments Team | Pokémon Perfect

    "Hello,

    Following the announcement of Hofuku's ban yesterday, @Linkin Karp approached the GTT saying that EB0LA, on an alt, impersonated stunner047 for their set for RBY MT #37. Apparently, while Linkin Karp was waiting for stunner047 in the main Pokemon Showdown! server, EB0LA, on an alt, approached him, saying he was stunner047. They soon started to battle. Only 1 game was played, which can be found in the following replay:

    [Gen 1] OU replay: Monerenee vs. Linkin Karp - Pokémon Showdown

    As we can see in the replay, stunner047 joined in the middle the battle, which makes EB0LA (the alt is confirmed to be EB0LA) say "Well this is awkward" and forfeit. From this, we can clearly deduce that EB0LA was aware of the fact that stunner047 was going to play Linkin Karp and tried to impersonate him."

    Impersonation is clearly an egregious form of cheating. Ebola not only threatened the integrity and legitimacy of that tournament, but the entire season as well. There is no logical reason for only Ebola's ban to be abruptly lifted other than pandering. Moreover, if his "presence" on Smogon truly is the impetus behind this biased and irrational decision (it is, obviously), keep in mind that he was banned from Ruins Of Alph in the past as well.

    One of the top 19 ADV players in the world should have been unbanned before Ebola, and the "SPL level" runner should have never been given power after all of the vitriol he spewed about Pokemon Perfect and the playerbase he claimed he was better than.
     
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    First post was somewhat funny, now it's getting boring. Let me just remind everyone that Konzern had two alts in two different teams in PPL, challenged Ninjax' opp Atli to a fake game to buy Ninjax more time and force Atli to reveal his team (which is strictly worse than what EB0LA did against me) and the two of them together literally PM'd someone a cryptobin with pw to frame the 13-year-old cohost for it. You can't threaten the integrity of a tournament more than that.
    EB0LA on the other hand only slightly threw me off-balance before a bronze match that had zero relevance.
    Better lock the thread CALLOUS. People are going to take this bad attempt at trolling seriously.
     
  7. GGFan

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    Yeah, I realize you've embraced your new gimmick of being an egg's lackey, but if the best retort you can offer is to evaluate my messages based on the humor they provide you, then that's simply laughable and lazy trolling at its finest. Anyways, your response is essentially a verbose way of saying, "What Konzern did is worse because it aligns with my agenda." I can do the same thing: what Ebola did was worse because, had he gotten away with impersonation, he likely would have kept doing it and continued to disrupt tournaments and seasons (luckily he was caught). I don't care what kin of match it was--impersonation was rightfully taken seriously, as it causes a plethora of problems (also, a medal match is never truly "meaningless"). Furthermore, I can easily say that Konzern's instance of impersonation was irrelevant because neither of those teams ended up making playoffs.

    Seriously, this is the best you can come up with? We may as well have no rules and regulations and allow everybody to make as many alternate accounts as they want and impersonate as many people as they want. Then, let people sign up for teams and then run off just before the events start or denigrate the entire website after they lose.
     
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