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RBY 4U (Under3U) [Thread Voided] Nidoking Suspect Voting

Discussion in 'Tiers' started by Disaster Area, Apr 3, 2016.

  1. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    This thread is currently voided

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    Original OP:

    This is the thread where players of RBY 4U can vote to allow or ban Nidoking from the tier. There are no requirements for someone to be able to vote. The thread will be open for one week. In the event of a tie, then the votes of the 5 highest scoring players in the New Frontiers tournament will be used to determine if Nidoking will be banned. Please discuss this suspect in the RBY 4U discussion thread.

    Banning critera (from this thread)
    List of people who have voted:
    Disaster Area

    Votes:
    Ban - 0
    No Ban - 1

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    My vote is No Ban
     
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  2. Lusch

    Lusch A critical hit! Member

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    What? We have not tested enough to vote on that (at least i have not). Playing the tier without Nidoking is necessary in this case i believe...
     
  3. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    We talked about it in the thread about suspecting. Why should what the tier looks like without Nidoking impact whether or not Nidoking is broken?

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    Also note I said I would do this a few days ago in the discussion thread
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    I linked to the Suspect Testing Discussion thread in the Discussion thread in a hyperlink
    and I tagged you in the 5th post of that thread.

    You had a couple of chances to bring it up. Obviously I'm still open to discussing it, but I already gave the time for that so that if you disagreed or had an opinion you had the opportunity to say it already open to you for a while.
     
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  4. marcoasd

    marcoasd P.I.P. PLAY IN PEACE Host Emeritus

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    Nidoking is not broken. Does it hurt diversity? Maybe, we don't know yet- and that's the reasoning behind creating a banlist (current 4U) and a new 4U tier. As Lusch (I guess) and me intend it.

    Again, if you want to stick with your tiering system, Nidoking is not broken in 4U- let's skip all this and let's move on.
     
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  5. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    There is a case for diversity too but I forgot about it and Ortheore's yet to respond to my comment on the tiering system about it. If we feel something is borderline broken, then looking at how it affects diversity is important too. I'm happy to close this for now and say we should suspect to see whether a Nidoking-less tier is sufficiently more diverse that we feel we ought to ban Nidoking. But I would have liked it if someone had actually responded to literally anything I said in the past week or so and brought up that point.
     
  6. marcoasd

    marcoasd P.I.P. PLAY IN PEACE Host Emeritus

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    That's nice to read. Well, I think I said that we need to get new frontiers/rankings done, then try the tier with Nidoking banned. I guess it was an unofficial place, but still it's too early to make a suspect and vote something we're not revisiting IMO.
     

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