RBY OU Tauros [Done]

Well, BKC has spent most of his pokemon political career playing other OU metas (he's better in literally every other gen, and plays some ubers tiers as well), and Nails went 4-5 & Tobes went 4-6 last SPL... not like it means much or anything but they're not nobodies, and they've effectively brought Fire Blast Tauros somewhat into the mainstream lol. So if anything that's why I see it and think "well it might as well be in the analysis" at the very least.

 

Fair enough. I mean, I'm not saying FB Tauros makes no sense at all, just that it's not very good and three people out of 1000 using it a few times or w/e doesn't change that fact. And when you bring up their statistics.....lol, yeah, sorry but exactly.

 

I mean they use it every game... they're not amazing players or anything but it's fair to at least call them average (just like it would be fair enough to call you that in ADV). Doesn't mean their opinion counts for a lot, just it doesn't count for stone cold nothing either.

 

No, I'm not saying they have no right to an opinion. What I am saying, however, is that, "Insert move is good because insert person uses it" isn't right (this is something I wrote about in my first memoir), especially a move that obviously isn't good compared to Tauros's other options. I would still point this out if you name dropped with, say, marcoasd, Peasounay, and Lusch.

 

Yeah, I get that. It's not a substitute for an argument, but it is a support or something (can't think of the right word xd).

 

Actually, it's a formal logical fallacy.

(One that is unfortunately rather necessary in many walks of life, as in many technical disciplines a layman audience is incapable, unwilling or too busy to listen to and understand a full explanation. Still, I think we're quite capable of understanding Pokemon here.)

 

I know.
Fully aware of all of those formal logical fallacies xD

I wasn't using it as an argument exactly, just to support the notion that it's decent enough to be in OO - if it's a possible OO option, and a handful of vaguely decent players use it, then surely that makes it more likely to be OO-worthy.

 

RIP analysis.

 

I won a 3 games with Fireblast Snorlax the other day. All hail the new meta!

In all honesty (as was already said by a few kf you) its one of those random surprise moves. Thunderbolt is probably the most useful as a surprise to Cloyster while Fireblast has very small usefulness in Tauros Ditto.

 

I've been wondering about the Fire Blast strategy in Tauros vs Tauros. Do maths actually back it up that Tauros is more likely to win the mirror by using Fire Blast turn 1 instead of BSlam? I'm not saying that the guide is implying anything like that, but I'm mainly curious about this because I see people use it in ladder every now and then.

Fire Blast of course has a shaky accuracy, but it also deals significantly less damage than BSlam. For example a crit Fire Blast deals 47.5 - 56% dmg, whereas a crit BSlam deals 52.1 - 61.4%. Hyper beams range is 47 - 55.5%, so it's totally realistic for the combination of a crit Fire Blast into a Hyper Beam to not finish off the opposing Tauros.

 

It's 19.79% for crit FB + noncrit HB to fail to KO. Note also that if the crit FB burns (which is 30.08% of the time a crit happens, 77/256), and either the FB went first or the HB went second, the opposing Tauros is going to take burn damage which guarantees the HB OHKO (even crit BS + noncrit HB only has 99.61%), and that you can always just get bailed out by a crit HB.

And, of course, FB + BS + HB all noncrit gets 99.58% to KO.

May do a full analysis.