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Pokémon Sets named after their creators / with known creators

Discussion in 'Chat' started by Disaster Area, Aug 10, 2016.

  1. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    Post any you can think of, I'll start with some and we can split it into PPers and non-PPers. This is just for fun :)

    PPers
    GGMew - RBY 1P / 1R Mew with Reflect / Swords Dance / Body Slam / Softboiled, named after Golden Gyarados
    Asd Assassin - RBY 1P Mewtwo with Psychic / Thunder Wave / Self-Destruct / Amnesia, named after Marcoasd
    Lutrew - RBY 1P Mew with Reflect / Transform / Softboiled / Thunder Wave, named after Lutra
    DisasterNite - ADV 2U Dragonite (see analysis)
    Flashtwo / HM Slave Mewtwo - RBY 1P set innovated by Disaster Area
    m9mbro / withdraw slowbro - RBY 1U with Withdraw / Amnesia / Rest / Surf, innovated by m9m

    non-PPers
    CroCune - ADV 1U RestTalk Surf Calm Mind Suicine, named after Cromat. Furthermore, most pokemon running resttalk/attack/boosting move are often named with Cro before it.
    Tobybro - RBY 1P (originally, now 1U too) Rest Amnesia Thunder Wave Surf Slowbro. Forget who it's named after, someone on Azure Heights?
    Atmacune - no idea who it's named after, has Curse tho.

    i'm being pretty loose with this, some of these are definitely less common and I probably missed quite a few, just put down any you want, just make it distinct if they're PPers or not!
    Also I call reflect chansey raish chansey and leech egg raish egg sometimes...
     
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  2. Lutra

    Lutra Site Founder Owner

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    Asd Assassin isn't named after the creator. Never heard of Atmacune. Also would be interested to know how GGMew was developed. Was it made independently by several players or did GG or someone else start the trend?

    Also, is my Stadium chansey set: Softboiled / Substitute / Seismic Toss / Thunder Wave, Lutransey? I am the first one who used Substitute on Chansey as far as I know.

    Also I think Ice beam, Substitute, Thunderbolt, Softboiled could be called UBChansey.

    FriendlyMie was popularised by GGFan.

    I would make a table with columns: Nickname, Set, Created by, Name Origins, Popularised by.
     
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  3. GGFan

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    I've never heard of any of the sets named after PPers, sorry.

    Anyways:

    FriendlyMie: Blizzard/Psychic/Thunder Wave/Recover Starmie (named after Mr. Friendly, my name on the PO ladder in 2013)
    Beam Gore: Hyper Beam Exeggutor. I gave it this name because it sounds pretty cool (yes, I'm definitely the one who made Hyper Beam Exeggutor a thing).
    GSCLax: Snorlax with Body Slam/Amnesia/Reflect/Rest. Named by SamG, who tried to popularize the set a decade ago.
     
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  4. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    What is asd assassin named after then? I thought it was named after marco.

    I thought I originally saw AtmaCune in a post by jira but I can't find it. Anyway mentions of it I can find:
    Gen 2 - Guess what this does. | Smogon Forums
    Pokemon (Metagame) Terminology
    Bulbagraphic:Reflecting on Lessons Learned - Bulbanews

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    I made flashtwo today;
    asd assassin / ggmew are fairly new but very important inventions in mewbers / ubers
    lutrew is an older but still important invention in ubers (not as good in mewbers)
    disasternite is just an adv 2u thing
    thought you would know m9mbro tho
     
  5. Lutra

    Lutra Site Founder Owner

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    [gdsheet]11Jg-H8ejWIturJh8DqMadMCzSL1OB-mY-iWPDmJw5IU/pubhtml?[/gdsheet]
     
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  6. Golden Gyarados

    Golden Gyarados Host Emeritus

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    I don't know if anyone else independently started using "my" Mew set, but I used it almost exclusively in the first Mewbers tour on Smogon and faced almost exclusively Lutrews there, or the old standard with boom. I feel like I "made it up" - I could be wrong, folks can step forward - but I definitely popularized it/proved its success. SD Mew with a Gengar in the back wrecks Lutrew in Mewbers. After facing me a few people started using it after, and I spoke of my success with it in chats, etc, and now it's standard.
     
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  7. Enigami

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    There's my EniZard set for RBY 3U with SD/Mega Kick/HB/Fire Blast, can't think of any others that aren't already listed. Though I forget, was there any reason why the main RBY Snorlax set listed on Smogon is 'Fishlax'?
     
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  8. Peasounay

    Peasounay qui peut me stopper Host Emeritus

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    When I faced Alexander in the finals of the smogon Mewbers tour we actually both used the SD/Reflect/Bslam/Sboiled moveset, and I personally don't remember being inspired by anyone but tbh I don't really remember (since I previously played you in the semis maybe I saw it idk) but at least Alex played it too.

    That being said I don't think anyone minds this set being called GGmew since nobody really discussed the tier during this tour unlike now.
     
  9. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    Oh hmm I guess fishlax is probably named after the old player fish (was around late gamefaqs era early smogon etc)
     
  10. Golden Gyarados

    Golden Gyarados Host Emeritus

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    I remember it being called Fishlax back in the day but I always thought it was just named because it had Surf and the idea of a swimming Snorlax - a "fish" lax - was amusing. But I guess maybe not!
     
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    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    it was a spat between him and ggfan which was the start of ggfan's infamy...
     
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  12. GGFan

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    ^What?

    Edit: I've definitely used Hyper Beam Lapras before I knew about marco using it. When I used it, I usually ran Blizzard/Thunderbolt/Body Slam/Hyper Beam.
     
  13. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    I'm talking about whatever it was idr exactly but with the log you edited of you and fish and something like that but it was in your book early on
     
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    What does that have to do with the moveset?

    Fishlax only had Surf, by the way. The more popular set had EQ instead.
     
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    marcoasd P.I.P. PLAY IN PEACE Host Emeritus

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    Yeah, many people call "Fishlax" the PHYSLAX set.
    Btw I think I'm using Reflect/Selfdestruct/Rest Snorlax more than Tanklax, and Piexplode's HB+Reflect+Rest set deserves a mention too: Hyper Beam coming from an unparalyzed Snorlax is damn good.

    Also, that Lapras is Laprasd.
     
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    magic9mushroom BEST END. Member

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    For god's sake I was using it at least as much as GGFan in that period and I stole it from Redemption who was using it in Dec 2012, before "Mr. Friendly" even existed. Guess where that atrocious nickname came from? Hint: He has an ego the size of my house. Every time someone caves to his fucking egomania and uses his revisionist fucking name it pisses me the fuck off. He's a great player, sure, but let's not give him more credit than he deserves.


    I didn't invent Withdraw Slowbro. The earliest mention I can find of the idea is by Jorgen in 2011, long before I even showed up, and IIRC that's where I got the idea; I just happened to be more interested in actually using it than Jorgen was. I've never been particularly comfortable with people naming the set after me for that reason. Also, OP is wrong; I didn't use Surf but rather Psychic (Lutra got it right). Without TWave you need Psychic to have any hope against Starmie, and Withdraw makes the Rhydon issue moot (there is Jynx, but eh).
     
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  17. Golden Gyarados

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    You don't have to invent a set for it to be valid to be named after you. Popularizing and "proving" a set, or even just using it more than everyone else to the point that it feels "signature," whether the set was obscure or innovative or not, is still a legitimate reason for the set to be associated with your play, and thus named for you
     
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    A narcissist who loves the words he posts so much that he floods entire message boards with them and is known for putting down random players by writing useless analyses of shitty games in a laughably pathetic attempt to show that he's relevant accusing me of having an ego? Pot, kettle, black, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, I’m sorry my nickname pales in comparison to some of the legendary nicknames of all time, like “GGmew,” “FishLax,” “Raish Chansey.” Yes, absolutely brilliant. I’m sure you would have come up with some ear sex like “m9mMie” or “ShroomMie!” Oh, wait, those nicknames suck. FriendlyMie is fine. It’s the same as almost every other nickname, really.

    It’s not about ego. It’s just about giving credit where credit is due. I popularized the set and proved its effectiveness the most, and that’s the name I gave it. It’s that simple.

    Also, you did NOT use that set before me. I started using FriendlyMie as early as 2011 back during my run as Hector Gold. I also used FriendlyMie during my NB Supremacy run in March of 2012. Besides that, you’re just not the one people think of when they consider that set. I’m the one who dominated with it on the ladder for the longest period of time against the most players, and used it in dozens of tournament matches from 2013-2015. Sorry, bub.

    PROOF: [Gen 1] OU replay: GGFan MMXVI vs. Peasounay - Pokémon Showdown

    P.S. everyone has an ego here. This is Pokemon.
     
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  19. Lutra

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    Thanks for the information guys. Keep it up!
     
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  20. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    noone except you calls it Friendlymie
     

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