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RBY Rose Red/Iris Blue [gen 1 mod]

Discussion in 'Tiers' started by KuraiTenshi26, Jul 19, 2019.

  1. KuraiTenshi26

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    Hello there, and welcome to the World of Pokemon! I'm Kurai, a big Gen 1 enthusiast!
    For some people, their journey through Kanto was a nostalgic time. Others still compete in it.
    As for myself... I study the generation as a hobby.

    Once, there was a time where people felt that everything about the Kanto region had been
    studied to wits' end. However... Time has passed. Pokemon in the Kanto region have adapted to
    better fare against their surroundings, truly a phenomenon never seen before!

    There is much to learn, and still many mysteries to solve. You'll face fun times, and
    tough challenges. A world of possibilities awaits...

    ... now, what did you say your name was again?

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    Join the dedicated Rose Red/Iris Blue discord for live discussion and getting into the heat of battle!

    What is Rose Red/Iris Blue?

    With the title a symbolism of an old generation budding anew, RRIB aims to make EVERY fully evolved Gen 1 Pokemon viable in the OU metagame. Whether it be through slightly buffing stats, a small movepool addition, restoring a learned move from a future generation, or the very rare revamp... the idea is to keep near every
    Pokemon's identity and playstyle intact while making it a suitable pick for competitive play!​

    Rules

    Mechanics:
    • Gen 1 mechanics
    • Modernized type chart:
      • Ghost is super-effective against psychic
      • Ice is not very effective against fire
      • Bug is not very effective against poison
      • Poison is neutral against bug
    • 1/256 miss rate on all moves is gone
    • Recovery moves don’t fail at specific hp numbers
    • Sleep is 5 turns max
    • Freeze now acts as a 5-turn max sleep, with equivalent “wakeup” chances to sleep
    • Team Preview
    Clauses: Gen 1 OU clauses, Team Preview
    Bans
    : None!
    Unbans: Mewtwo, Mew (both have been nerfed to OU viability)

    Strategy

    The first generation of Pokemon is a very naturally bulky offensive metagame, with even the frailest of Pokemon being able to take a strong neutral hit if need be. Status is also incredibly important due to the lack of items and cleric moves, as well as status in general just being more punishing than 7th generation play. As a result, having good type synergy backed by a couple fast Pokemon and some good paralysis spread is the timeless but effective formula to a good Gen 1 team.

    Alternatively, poison spread got a fantastic buff in the revamp of Dream Eater (a 180 bp Ghost move that works on sleeping or poisoned foes), alongside a plethora of strong abusers of this move. Whether you decide to spread paralysis or poison is up to you, build around their payoffs and you should find success.


    Q&A

    Q: How was [insert Pokemon] changed?
    A: You can find ALL changes in the metagame document, including all changes made to the Pokemon.

    Q: I feel [insert Pokemon] is too weak/strong, what do I do?
    A: As long as you are constructive about things, feel free to post in this thread or on the metagame discord about the perceived strength/weakness of a Pokemon in the metagame. This is a mod after all, so there is the freedom to manually buff/nerf Pokemon to make a better metagame! As long as you keep in line with the metagame philosophy, suggestions to tweak Pokemon are really appreciated. Crying about something being "OP!!" is an ill-advised decision that will swiftly get dismissed. Explaining that "I think X is too strong/weak because ... and maybe here are some suggestions to tweak X" is fantastic and encouraged!

    Q: Replay uploads aren't working. How do I share my game?
    A: The server that is currently hosting the metagame has some issues with replays. Sometimes, replay uploads will be offline. In these cases, download them instead and share the replay in the discord if you want to get some discussion going about a match. This replay dilemma is actively being worked on, and I'm very open to this metagame being hosted on a different server to fix this issue faster (PM me if interested wink).

    Q: I found a bug, what do I do?
    A: Post it in this thread, or PM me on pperfect/smogon/discord! I don't bite, just keep it civil.

    Resources

    - Playable and visualized at the dedicated client
    REPLAY UPLOAD STATUS: ONLINE

    - Dedicated damage calculator
    - Metagame document contains all:
    • Mechanic changes
    • Move property changes
    • Pokemon stat/movepool/typing changes
    • Pokemon analyses
    • Sample sets
    • Speed tiers
    • Type-based compendia
    Sample Replays

    [1] Nidoking Bulky Offense vs Fearow Offense
    [2] Scyther Bulky Offense vs Porygon Offense
    [3] Double Psychic vs Pidgeot Bulky Offense
    [4] Dragonite Offense vs Pinsir Para Spam
     
  2. KuraiTenshi26

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    Sample Teams & Cores

    The metagame is very young, so the sample teams section may change frequently. but here are some teams to get you started if you're unsure of what to battle others with.
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    Alakazam
    - Psychic
    - Recover
    - Thunder Wave
    - Seismic Toss

    Blastoise
    - Hydro Pump
    - Earthquake
    - Blizzard
    - Submission

    Exeggutor
    - Sleep Powder
    - Psychic
    - Explosion
    - Stun Spore

    Clefable
    - Body Slam
    - Hyper Beam
    - Soft-Boiled
    - Thunderbolt

    Articuno
    - Blizzard
    - Whirlwind
    - Agility
    - Hyper Beam

    Tauros
    - Body Slam
    - Hyper Beam
    - Earthquake
    - Thunderbolt
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    Scyther
    - Swords Dance
    - Twineedle
    - Wing Attack
    - Hyper Beam

    Charizard
    - Fire Blast
    - Hyper Fang
    - Earthquake
    - Submission

    Exeggutor
    - Sleep Powder
    - Psychic
    - Explosion
    - Stun Spore

    Chansey
    - Blizzard
    - Soft-Boiled
    - Thunder Wave
    - Thunderbolt

    Golem
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide
    - Explosion
    - Rest

    Starmie
    - Psychic
    - Thunderbolt
    - Recover
    - Thunder Wave
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    Alakazam
    - Psychic
    - Recover
    - Thunder Wave
    - Reflect

    Mewtwo
    - Psychic
    - Blizzard
    - Submission
    - Self-Destruct

    Moltres
    - Fire Blast
    - Fire Spin
    - Agility
    - Whirlwind

    Parasect
    - Spore
    - Leech Life
    - Slash
    - Stun Spore

    Blastoise
    - Hydro Pump
    - Earthquake
    - Blizzard
    - Submission

    Electrode
    - Thunderbolt
    - Thunder Wave
    - Hyper Beam
    - Explosion

    Offensive
    Cores
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    Defensive
    Cores
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    Reserved for Viability Rankings
     
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    Reserved for Hall of Fame
     
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    Dizno Grime lover Season Host

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    Good, but not quite adv 50
     
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    Registration for our first tournament is here, featuring a $50 prize for the winner. Whether you are interested in mods, like RBY, or just want to get that bread, it can't hurt to sign up and play. Registration closes on August 4th at 11:59 pm EST, so get prepping!
     

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