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RBY OU RATE MY TEAM

Discussion in 'Rate My Team' started by Roostur, Mar 20, 2019.

  1. Roostur

    Roostur Member

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    magic9mushroom BEST END. Member

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    Sets?
     
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    Why Sandslash over Rhydon? Opposing Zapdos is really scary for this team, and Drill Peck is deceptively fast at breaking Ground-types without also having Rock-typing, particularly when they can't threaten 2HKOs back.

    It'd also really help with the Tauros matchup, Tauros needs to use Body Slam > Hyper Beam to KO Persian before Persian KOs Tauros. With Rhydon, Persian and Tauros can trade 1/3 damage, then you can switch in Rhydon on the Hyper Beam and take out another 1/3, and either stay in and risk Blizzard crit/freeze to finish Tauros off or switch out (Cloyster is mighty convenient for that, especially on a likely Blizzard being thrown out by Tauros) and still be able to finish off Tauros at any point with your Persian.
     
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    magic9mushroom BEST END. Member

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    I was trying to get sets because Sandslash's set here determines exactly where it falls down. But yes, Cloy + Bel means you have a giant Zapdos-shaped hole in your team and that needs to be filled with either a Rock/Ground or maybe Jolteon. Sandslash does keep your opponent on their toes rather than just spamming TWave, but it's not a very good Zapdos counter if Zapdos just spams Drill Peck. (It is an excellent Jolteon counter, though, and double Water + Zapdos means there's also a big Jolteon weakness.)
     
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  5. Roostur

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    [Gen 1] OU replay: Roostur vs. Crystal_ rby - Pokémon Showdown Just thought it was funny, I actually also beat crystal with this team lol. [Gen 1] OU replay: Roostur vs. PHALLUSnarrates - Pokémon Showdown and beds. The Sandslash set was Slash, swords dance, earthquake, hyperbeam. I guess I would just get around the zapdos problem with reads.
    [Gen 1] OU replay: RBY e b 0 l a vs. Roostur - Pokémon Showdown Here is another replay of me vs ebola and he is using a zapdos. I have replaced starmie with jolteon.
    And here is me vs another guy who uses zapdos [Gen 1] OU replay: Berlusconi Silvio vs. Roostur - Pokémon Showdown . In this one I'm still using starmie.
     
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    magic9mushroom BEST END. Member

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    I never really heard of Crystal being super good at the game, just knowing damned near everything. I mean, I know a hell of a lot about RBY too but I've never really been a top player.
     
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    This is very common in almost every competitive game I've participated in. There are people who don't know their percents exactly, and don't care, and then there are the people who study the game rigorously and know everything, yet they don't perform as well. It is interesting to think about why that might be. I think it might have something to do with the difference in how people think. For example some people think in words, and some people think in images. I'm definitely someone who thinks in images primarily. So I know a lot about gen 2 (more like I knew a lot) and I've become really good at gen 1, but if you start asking me about a specific situation in either gen or a specific pokemon, even if I know the answer, the answer is in my head in the form of images and then needs to be translated to words. I believe this difference in people's thinking gives the false impression a lot of the time that certain people who can't explain certain things about the game know less than people who can, when in reality they know the answer to all these questions in their head, it is just in the form of images.

    That could all be complete bs, but that is my theory anyway. Also there is different mindsets. My mindset is I don't care about theories, I'm a realist who needs to see a situation work/not work to accept it. If you tell me "roostur this team just doesn't work, you're going to get wrecked," but I've been performing well with the team, I'm not going to believe you. This mindset by definition is going to work better than a mindset based mostly on theories because one is based in the real world, and you don't have to know why it works as long as it works. You don't have to care about thinking about every single variable, which can be hard to do sometimes, you just have to see it work and figure out why it worked later.
     
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    Being a theoretical player mostly, i am not sure if just because a team “has worked for you” it is necessarily solid. In gsc, for example, you could make a team and perform well with it on ladder, but playing a prepped opponent on tour is a completely different beast. Your team could be solid at breaking stall and vs standard offense, but you have a really bad bpass mu that you dont know about because no one uses bpass on ladder.


    Btw shoutout to M Y N D G A M E S
     
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    "no one uses bpass on ladder" lol, when I played you'd see a baton pass smeargle every other game. Not so much baton pass umbreon, unless I started using it, and then of course everyone liked to copy me.
     
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    What i meant was more like working for you isnt always a solid indication of a good team. I think borat said something similar in one of his guides
     
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    troller has a 100% winrate in rby with magikarp as far as I'm aware
     
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    magic9mushroom BEST END. Member

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    Now you're reminding me of that attempt to beat R/B with Magikarp only (+HM slaves).

    (Doesn't work. Channelers in Pokemon Tower and Agatha can't be beaten without non-Normal moves. It's been done with Bongzilla Weedle, though.)
     
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