Community Quick Guide: Differences between HGSS 1U and DPP OU

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This no longer applies. We now use Smogon's DPP OU rules for our HGSS OU tournaments.

Since Smogon updated their DPP OU tierlist since the time this was posted, here is an updated version.

Our new rules:

  • Speed-Passing Clause: Baton Pass and a move that boosts speed cannot be used on the same set.
Note that you can find a list of Pokemon Perfect's Tiers here.

Minor / Subtle Additional Note: Even though Pokemon Perfect's tier is named HGSS 1U and Smogon's tier is named DPP OU they both allow all moves accessible in generation 4. On PP we assume that both players play in an emulation of link battles on Heart Gold / Soul Silver (the final cartridge release of generation 4) and Smogon does something similar although it's less clear about exactly what they do.


Smogon's rules that we don't keep:
  • Sand Veil and Snow Cloak are banned.

Our new rules:
  • Evasion Abilities Clause: Sand Veil and Snow Cloak cannot be used as an ability on a Pokémon that has access to an alternative ability. This means that you can't use Sand Veil Gliscor, since you can run it with Hyper Cutter instead, whereas with Froslass, you can run it with Snow Cloak since it doesn't have access to another ability.
  • Speed-Passing Clause: Baton Pass and a move that boosts speed cannot be used on the same set.

Note that you can find a list of Pokemon Perfect's Tiers here.

Additional Note: Even though Pokemon Perfect's tier is named HGSS 1U and Smogon's tier is named DPP OU they both allow all moves accessible in generation 4. On PP we assume that both players play in an emulation of link battles on Heart Gold / Soul Silver (the final cartridge release of generation 4) and Smogon does something similar although it's less clear about exactly what they do.[/Quote]
 
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Can we drop Electivire to HGSS 2U? Like immediately? I think the Evire fad is long dead now, and Electivire in Smogon's DPP OU seems like one of those blindspots in their usage-based tiering scheme.
 
Can we drop Electivire to HGSS 2U? Like immediately? I think the Evire fad is long dead now, and Electivire in Smogon's DPP OU seems like one of those blindspots in their usage-based tiering scheme.
We haven't made HGSS 2U yet. Though yes, expect once it is made for Electivire to not make HGSS 1U.
 
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