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RBY 4U (Under3U) Porygon [GP Ready]

Discussion in 'Individual Analyses' started by Peasounay, Mar 24, 2016.

  1. Peasounay

    Peasounay qui peut me stopper Host Emeritus

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    Porygon [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Type: Normal
    Stats: 65 | 60 | 70 | 75 | 40


    Introduction

    Porygon’s access to Thunder Wave and Recover coupled with a decent bulk makes it both a staller and a paralysis spreader. It can switch-in almost anything as long as it’s not paraysed and can easily function as a pivot pokemon. It's usuable as a lead given its good match-up against everything bar Venomoth It’s one of the best answers to Blastoise. Porygon also has a good movepool though it lacks raw power and is slow. It’s still a top pokemon that should highly be considered for any team.

    Standard

    Porygon
    - Psychic
    - Thunderbolt
    - Thunder Wave
    - Recover

    Set Details

    The combination of Thunder Wave and Recover makes Porygon a difficult pokemon to break that can at least cripple anything going up against it. Thunderbolt hits the common Water types for super effective damage and can occasionaly come in handy against Scyther. Psychic hits the poison types Venomoth and Nidoking and allows you to go up against opposite Porygon.

    Other Options

    You can run Blizzard (usually instead of Psychic) to 2HKO Nidoking 80% of the time and Nidoqueen 33% of the time (without factoring critical hits, accuracy and freeze odds) and to avoid being Tangela bait but that means you’re at a disadvantage against Venomoth opposite Porygon if it has Psychic. Plus, almost any team carries Venomoth, which means you usually already have a Tangela answer. You can run sharpen with Double-Edge, Recover, and Thunder Wave reasonably well due to the rarity of normal resistances in the tier, but it has more issues with Nidoking and needs to boost quite a bit to get a good damage output. Double-Edge itself is actually a good option for the teams handling Slowpoke well enough but having issues with Abra since it's a 2HKO. Hyper Beam is an option too to OHKO it, and Tri-Attack 2HKOs without any recoil but Double-Edge is a little less than a 3HKO on Slowpoke, meaning Porygon baits it less. Agility can be used but throwing out an offensive move can cause you troubles.

    Checks and Counters

    Paralysing Porygon is close to mandatory in order to break it. Most stuff annoys it when it's para'd, doesn't when it's not, that's the most of it beyond Tangela and Nidoking. Once it’s paralysed, it will be a lot easier to pressure. Your own Porygon, Venomoth, Abra, Slowpoke, Tangela, and Staryu are all candidates for paralyzing it, but its body slam paralysis immunity means that Pokémon such as Blastoise cannot paralyze it. Tangela can set up on Porygon if it doesn’t run Blizzard. Nidoking can’t get paralysed and hits very hard but it doesn’t like taking damage. Rapidash can pressure it without taking hard hits, so does Arcanine but it doesn’t have Fire Spin. Omastar and Magneton can respectively 2HKO with Hydro Pump and Thunder. Slowpoke can set up on it and 2HKO at +4 at the risk of a Thunderbolt critical hit but the odds are quite low. Your own Porygon if you have Psychic is an option even if it’s a bit gamblish. Abra 3HKOs but hates paralysis. Try to use fast pokemon against Porygon since a critical hit can often spell the end.
     
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  2. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    mention in OO that not running psychic also puts you at a disadvantage vs venomoth. In OO describe that you can run sharpen with double edge, recover, and thunder wave reasonably well due to the rarity of normal resistances in the tier, but note that it has more issues with nidoking and needs to boost quite a bit to get a good damage output. Note double edge itself is actually enough coverage on its own, but a specially focussed set is usually more effective due to lack of recoil, and more power versus physically bulky targets such as tangela and nidoking.

    In C&C if a player wants to they can try pretty hard to avoid getting pory para'd; what i'd do instead is note that your own porygon, venomoth, abra, slowpoke, tangela, and staryu are all candidates for paralyzing it, but its body slam paralysis immunity means that Pokémon such as Blastoise cannot paralyze it. Not 100% sold on the rest of C&C but not sure what to say.. most stuff annoys it when it's para'd, doesn't when it's not, that's the most of it beyond tang/nido. Make that the main point. Note that a critical hit can often spell the end for pory.
     
  3. Lusch

    Lusch A critical hit! Member

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    Imo Blizzard should even be a slash but it's not too important...
     
  4. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    You should be much nicer about double edge in OO, in fact I'd even more it to set details. It maintains perfect coverage alongside psychic and provides STAB. Teams that need a harder hit on Abra from Porygon and that have other coverage for slowpoke / waters can definitely run it, and it is STAB after all.

    Agility Porygon our new lord and savoir

    oo plz

    can sweep!

    [Gen 1] NU replay: Peasounay vs. Disaster Area - Pokmon Showdown
     
  5. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    Peasounay

    Double Edge should be moved to the end of set details. For teams that can handle slowpoke very well [e.g. running tangela alongside] but have more issues with abra [e.g. not running slowpoke] then it's a decent option. Add tri-attack and HB to the end of OO; HB can OHKO Abra, whilst tri-attack 2HKOs without any recoil. Dedge however unlike either still does a little less than a 3HKO to Slowpoke, making it less set-up bait for it which is always still welcomed.

    Also you should probably throw agility into the end of OO although it doesn't hit super hard and it gives up a moveslot.
     
  6. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    Really important to mention: Blizzard 2HKOs Nidoking [80% chance not factoring crits/accuracy/freeze], Psychic doesn't [30% chance to achieve the 2HKO if it gets a specfall btw]. Blizzard also has a ~33% chance of 2HKOing Nidoqueen not factoring accuracy/freezes/crits
     
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    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    Mention its ability to be used as a lead. Venomoth is the only bad matchup for it. etc
     

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