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Linoone @ Lum Berry
Ability: Pickup
EVs: 176 HP / 252 Atk / 40 Def / 40 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Belly Drum
- Return
- Hidden Power [Ground]
Other variants could include Sitrus (only heals 30 HP, but still adds that much more that attacks need to KO to stop Belly Drum), Silk Scarf, Shadow Ball, Salac Berry + Sub, more speed instead of bulk, etc.
This thing pretty much 6-0s the tier once it gets set up, which can be made easier with Screens support (Solrock is one that can set both screens and then boom/slow pass to Linoone). The only way to stop this particular set is Haunter, Misdreavus, or the tankiest of Normal resists at high HP, all of which can be easily weakened by trappers / lured by other Normal attackers such as Tauros, or having the ability to phaze it or KO it the instant it shows up.
Considering that BellyPass, a strategy that is something you can actually respond to, was banned, I think we really ought to quickban Linoone. I did a few testgames with Disaster Area, and outside the first game where I derped and tried to drum in front of an obvious Focus Punch Registeel, even Disaster Area knowing beforehand I was going for Linoone couldn't stop me drumming and 6-0ing with Linoone.
Linoone @ Lum Berry
Ability: Pickup
EVs: 176 HP / 252 Atk / 40 Def / 40 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Belly Drum
- Return
- Hidden Power [Ground]
Other variants could include Sitrus (only heals 30 HP, but still adds that much more that attacks need to KO to stop Belly Drum), Silk Scarf, Shadow Ball, Salac Berry + Sub, more speed instead of bulk, etc.
This thing pretty much 6-0s the tier once it gets set up, which can be made easier with Screens support (Solrock is one that can set both screens and then boom/slow pass to Linoone). The only way to stop this particular set is Haunter, Misdreavus, or the tankiest of Normal resists at high HP, all of which can be easily weakened by trappers / lured by other Normal attackers such as Tauros, or having the ability to phaze it or KO it the instant it shows up.
Considering that BellyPass, a strategy that is something you can actually respond to, was banned, I think we really ought to quickban Linoone. I did a few testgames with Disaster Area, and outside the first game where I derped and tried to drum in front of an obvious Focus Punch Registeel, even Disaster Area knowing beforehand I was going for Linoone couldn't stop me drumming and 6-0ing with Linoone.
