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RBY 4U (Under3U) Blastoise [GP Ready]

Discussion in 'Individual Analyses' started by Peasounay, Mar 24, 2016.

  1. Peasounay

    Peasounay qui peut me stopper Host Emeritus

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    Blastoise [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Type: Water
    Stats: 79 | 83 | 100 | 85 | 78


    Introduction

    Blastoise is an easy fit to a lot of teams. It has a good bulk, does some damage, and has middling speed. At full health, it can check a good portion of the tier, and functions quite well as a pivot. It has some troubles getting past pokemon such as Porygon and Slowpoke but that means it can bait them out. It also does alright as a lead given its very good match up against Fire types. You can solidely rely on Blastoise in 4U.

    Standard

    Blastoise
    - Surf / Hydro Pump
    - Blizzard
    - Body Slam
    - Rest

    Set Details

    The choice between Surf and Hydro Pump for your STAB move depends on wether you want power or pps and accuracy. Hydro Pump allows you to pressure Porygon more easily and to get a 3HKO on Venomoth, with some odds to do so against Omastar. Blizzard hits Tangela and Scyther for some super effective damage and can sometimes score a freeze on opposite Blastoise or Porygon. Body Slam spreads paralysis notably to Slowpoke, Staryu, and opposite Blastoise. Rest is used due to the lack of good options but Blastoise can wake up given its bulk, though you have to be careful of your opponent bringing threatening pokemon such as Nidoking.

    Other Options

    Blastoise learns Earthquake, but whilst it's helpful versus Omastar and Electrics, but Electrics are rare and the advantage is small since Blastoise usually beats Omastar due to typing and that Nidoking checks Electrics, making Rest usually the more useful option.. Seismic Toss is Blastoise's best damaging option against Slowpoke and opposite Blastoise. Running Surf and Hydro Pump on the same set might be a possibility but it provides little utility and dropping one of the moves above isn’t recommanded.

    Checks and Counters

    Porygon is the best answer since it can recover, paralyse, and is immuned to Body Slam’s secondary effect, though can lose versus unparalyzed Blastoise if it gets critical hit early on. Slowpoke can use Blastoise as a set-up bait, only fearing a paralysis which it doesn't mind very much. Staryu is a very good check even if it dislikes paralysis. It's also quite frail in general, but its access to Thunderbolt and Recover make up for that somewhat in spite of disliking paralysis. You can also go to your own Blastoise and force your opponent to rest in order to bring in something threatening such as Nidoking, or stuff that can set up (Slowpoke, Tangela, Scyther). Omastar neutralises Blastoise if it’s been previously paralysed but can’t kill it easily (though it can force it to rest, or even try to freeze).
     
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  2. Ortheore

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    Good work, the only thing that sticks out to me is that Seismic Toss could maybe do with a mention in OO as it's Toise's best option (in terms of damage) against Poke and opposing Toise
     
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    say running surf+hpump in OO provides little utility rather than not much interest
    the comment on electrics with EQ isn't really warranted; they don't resist any of its attacks and I'm not sure it even outdamages hpump/surf; what you could instead say is whilst it's helpful versus Omastar and Electrics, they are rare and the advantage is small, making rest usually the more useful option.

    Note in C&C that porygon can lose versus unparalyzed blastoise if it gets critical hit early on. 'that's no drama' is a weird phrase about slowpoke; say that it doesn't mind it very much. Note that staryu is also frail, and note its access to Thunderbolt and Recover making up for that somewhat in spite of disliking paralysis.

    Chance omastar can't kill it to can't kill it easily (note that it could force it to rest however)
     
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    Disaster Area Little Ball of Furr and Power Member

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    In OO you mention EQ and you mentoin Omastar as rare. It's definitely not rare now [it's A rank lol] but even still the advantage gained by it is small especially considering it's a matchup blastoise generally wins anyway, due to typing.
     

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