All Gens Alternative Tiers

This thread is for containing the rulestes of tiers that are not Pokemon Perfect's Main Tiers (see this link for those tiers), i.e. for tiers which are not in the Standard Tier Set. It is to be used as a directory. If you want to request a tier be added to this list, please just send me a visitor or private message.

SM

Doubles 1U

Sleep Clause, Species Clause; Cannot have more than 3 users of Baton Pass per team6; Banned Abilities: Moody; Banned Moves: Double Team, Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, Minimize, Sheer Cold, Swagger

Balanced Hackmons

Sleep Clause; Banned Moves: Chatter, Double Team, Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, Minimize, Sheer Cold, Z-Moves*; Banned Abilities: Arena Trap, Comatose, Huge Power, Moody, Parental Bond, Protean, Psychic Surge, Pure Power, Queenly Majesty, Shadow Tag, Triage, Water Bubble, Wonder Guard; Banned Pokemon: Primal Groudon, Primal Kyogre, Zygarde-Complete; -Ate Clause**

Important Notes:
  • * This means that all Z-crystals are banned, as are hacked Z-moves onto movesets.
  • **Limit to one of the following abilities per team: Aerilate, Galvanize, Pixilate, Refrigerate
  • There is no EV Limit.
  • Groudon holding a Red Orb is legal, but a Primal Groudon holding a separate item is
    not. Kyogre holding a Blue Orb is legal, but a Primal Kyogre holding a separate item is not. A Zygarde with Power Construct is legal, but Zygarde-C holding a separate item is not.
Main Thread - Link

ADV

2017 Legacy Tiers:

Banned Pokémon: Aerodactyl, Blissey, Celebi, Claydol, Cloyster, Deoxys-E, Dugtrio, Flygon, Forretress, Gengar, Groudon, Gyarados, Heracross, Ho-Oh, Jirachi, Jolteon, Kyogre Latias, Latios, Lugia, Magneton, Mew, Mewtwo, Metagross, Milotic, Porygon2, Rayquaza, Regice, Salamence, Skarmory, Snorlax, Starmie, Suicune, Swampert, Tyranitar, Venusaur, Wobbuffet, Wynaut, Zapdos
Belly Drum + Baton Pass Ban, Ingrain+Baton Pass Ban

Deoxys-E stands for Deoxys-Everything; this means that all Deoxys forms (Normal, Speed, Attack, and Defense) are banned. Similarly, Arceus-E stands for Arceus-Everything, meaning that all Arceus forms are banned.

Belly Drum + Baton Pass Ban means that no Pokémon may have Baton Pass and Belly Drum on the same set. Similary, Ingrain + Baton Pass Ban means that no Pokémon may have Baton Pass and Ingrain on the same set.
2P Rules +
Banned Pokémon: Alakazam, Espeon, Medicham, Slaking
2U Rules +
Banned Pokémon: Articuno, Breloom, Chansey, Dragonite, Donphan, Entei, Exeggutor, Hariyama, Houndoom, Jynx, Kingdra, Lanturn, Ludicolo, Marowak, Moltres, Nidoking, Omastar, Quagsire, Raikou, Registeel, Rhydon, Slowbro, Solrock, Tauros, Vaporeon, Weezing

ADV 50

Standard OU battle clauses, plus Mean Look is banned.

Legal Pokemon: Aggron, Altaria, Ampharos, Armaldo, Azumarill, Banette, Cacturne, Camerupt, Castform, Chimecho, Clefable, Crawdaunt, Crobat, Electrode, Fearow, Flareon, Forretress, Glalie, Golduck, Golem, Granbull, Hitmonlee, Huntail, Jumpluff, Kabutops, Kadabra, Lanturn, Manectric, Mantine, Meganium, Mightyena, Misdreavus, Muk, Nidoqueen, Rapidash, Sableye, Sandslash, Scizor, Scyther, Sharpedo, Shiftry, Slowking, Stantler, Steelix, Torkoal, Typhlosion, Venomoth, Vileplume, Wailord, Whiscash

This thread also contains the above information.

RBY

2017 Legacy Tiers:


Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, Species Clause
Banned Moves: Dig, Double Team, Fissure, Fly, Guillotine, Horn Drill, Minimize, Psywave
Banned Pokémon: Alakazam, Chansey, Cloyster, Dragonite, Exeggutor, Gengar, Golem, Jolteon, Jynx, Lapras, Mew, Mewtwo, Slowbro, Snorlax, Starmie, Tauros, Zapdos
Banned Pokémon: Articuno, Moltres

Violet

Violet is a modification of RBY by Kristoph. There is a limited roster of Pokemon, many of which are buffed, as well as team preview, fixes of some RBY glitches, and a number of moves buffed. A couple of Pokemon's types are changed also.
This can also be found in pastebin form here.

Table of Contents
  • Clauses/Misc
  • Roster
  • Type Changes
  • Move Changes
  • Stat/Movepool changes
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Clauses/Misc

Team Preview: On
Clauses: Sleep / Freeze / Species

The type chart is modernized: Ghost is super-effective against Psychic; Ice is not very effective against Fire; Bug is NVE against Poison; and Poison is neutral against Bug.

1/256 is gone. All rejoice.

Recover, Rest and Softboiled also don't fail sometimes like they do in RBY.

Paralysis as a secondary status works as it does in modern gens.
(Body Slam can paralyze normals, etc)

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Roster

aerodactyl.png
alakazam.png
arbok.png
articuno.png
beedrill.png
butterfree.png
chansey.png
charizard.png
cloyster.png
dragonite.png
dugtrio.png
electabuzz.png
electrode.png
exeggutor.png
flareon.png
gengar.png
golbat.png
golduck.png
golem.png
gyarados.png
hypno.png
jynx.png
kabutops.png
machamp.png
magmar.png
magneton.png
moltres.png
muk.png
nidoqueen.png
ninetales.png
parasect.png
pidgeot.png
pinsir.png
poliwrath.png
primeape.png
slowbro.png
snorlax.png
starmie.png
tangela.png
tauros.png
vileplume.png
zapdos.png


Aerodactyl, Alakazam, Arbok, Articuno, Beedrill, Butterfree, Chansey, Charizard, Cloyster, Dragonite, Dugtrio, Electabuzz, Electrode, Exeggutor, Flareon, Gengar, Golbat, Golduck, Golem, Gyarados, Hypno, Jynx, Kabutops, Machamp, Magmar, Magneton, Moltres, Muk, Nidoqueen, Ninetales, Parasect, Pidgeot, Pinsir, Poliwrath, Primeape, Slowbro, Snorlax, Starmie, Tangela, Tauros, Vileplume, Zapdos

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Type Changes

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Butterfree - Bug/Psychic
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Charizard - Fire/Dragon
electabuzz.png
Electabuzz - Electric/Fighting
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Golduck - Water/Ghost
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Magmar - Fire/Fighting
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Magneton - Electric/Rock
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Ninetales - Fire/Psychic

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Move Changes

Acid: 70 BP, 50% chance to lower Defense
Bind: 40 BP, Bug-type, 8 PP, Partial trapping for 2-3 turns (Accuracy remains 75)
Clamp: 70 BP, 5 PP, Partial trapping for 2-3 turns (Accuracy remains 75)
Disable: 100 Accuracy, 3 PP. Disabled moves remain Disabled indefinitely, even if the Disabled Pokemon switches out. If you try to Disable a second move, the second move will be successfully Disabled, but the first move will no longer be Disabled. Only Muk, Ninetales, and Tangela have access to Disable.
Dream Eater: 200 BP, Ghost-Type, works against sleeping, poisoned, or badly poisoned targets, heals 100% of damage dealt. Only Beedrill, Gengar, Hypno, and Poliwrath have access to the move.
Fire Spin: 30 BP, 8 PP, Partial trapping for 2-3 turns (Accuracy remains 70)
Gust: 80 BP, Flying-Type, 30% chance to lower Attack
Karate Chop: Fighting-Type
Leech Life: 60 BP, heals 100% of damage dealt
Mega Drain: Heals 100% of damage dealt
Mimic: Mimicked moves remain on the user’s moveset even if the user switches out. Only Articuno, Dugtrio, Flareon, Jynx, Magneton, and Pidgeot have access to Mimic.
Petal Dance: 120 BP (repeats 2-3 turns, then confuses user)
Poison Sting: 95 BP, 30% chance to poison
Rock Slide: 85 BP
Sky Attack: +1 Defense during charge turn
Solar Beam: 100 BP, +1 Special during charge turn
Submission: 100 Accuracy, 100 BP
Thrash: 100 BP, Dragon-Type (repeats 2-3 turns, then confuses user)
Toxic: 100 Accuracy
Tri Attack: Ghost-Type
Twineedle: 40 BP per hit (still 20% poison chance per hit)
Vice Grip: Bug-Type, high critical hit ratio
Wrap: 40 BP, 8 PP, partial trapping for 2-3 turns (Accuracy remains 85)

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Stat/Movepool Changes

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Aerodactyl - Learns Rock Slide, Softboiled
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Arbok - 60/105/69/65/100 | 0/+20/0/0/+20
beedrill.png
Beedrill - 65/80/40/45/130 | 0/0/0/0/+55 Learns Dream Eater, does not learn Swords Dance
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Butterfree - 70/55/60/95/80 | +10/+10/+10/+15/+10 | Learns Leech Life, Solar Beam
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Chansey - Does not learn Solar Beam
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Charizard - Learns Thrash
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Dragonite - Learns Thrash
dugtrio.png
Dugtrio - 35/110/50/70/120 | 0/+30/0/0/0 | Learns Tri Attack
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Electrode - 65/65/70/110/140 | +5/+15/0/+30/0
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Exeggutor - No longer learns Solar Beam.
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Flareon - 115/130/90/110/65 | +50/0/+30/0/0
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Golbat - 85/90/80/80/90 | +10/+10/+10/+5/0 | Learns Acid, Gust, Super Fang
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Golduck - Learns Tri Attack, doesn't learn Submission
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Gyarados - Learns Sky Attack, Tri Attack
hypno.png
Hypno - 85/113/70/115/67 | 0/+40/0/0/0
kabutops.png
Kabutops - Learns Rock Slide
machamp.png
Machamp - 100/130/100/65/55 | +10/0/+20/0/0
magneton.png
Magneton - 120/60/95/120/70 | +70/0/0/0/0
magmar.png
Magmar - 65/95/57/85/120 | 0/0/0/0/+27 | Learns Vice Grip
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Moltres - Learns Solar Beam
muk.png
Muk - 145/105/85/75/50 | +40/0/+10/+10/0 | Learns Acid
nidoqueen.png
Nidoqueen - 90/92/87/75/85| 0/+10/0/0/+9 | Learns Softboiled
ninetales.png
Ninetales - Learns Psychic, Disable
parasect.png
Parasect - 90/115/130/80/30 | +30/+20/+50/0/0 | Learns Twineedle, Vice Grip
pidgeot.png
Pidgeot - 83/110/75/105/100 | 0/+30/0/+35/+9
poliwrath.png
Poliwrath - 90/115/95/70/70 | 0/+30/0/0/0 | Learns Dream Eater, Karate Chop
primeape.png
Primeape - 65/105/60/60/125 | 0/0/0/0/+30
tangela.png
Tangela - 85/55/115/100/60 | +20/0/0/0/0 | Learns Disable, does not learn Sleep Powder
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Vileplume - 80/105/85/100/80 | +5/+25/0/0/+30 | Learns Razor Leaf

Ultra Violet

This is a modification of Violet, the metagame listed above, by Disaster Area and Enigami
Table of Contents
  • Roster
  • Type Changes
  • Move Changes
  • Stat/Movepool changes
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Roster

In Violet:
aerodactyl.png
alakazam.png
arbok.png
articuno.png
beedrill.png
butterfree.png
chansey.png
charizard.png
cloyster.png
dragonite.png
dugtrio.png
electabuzz.png
electrode.png
exeggutor.png
flareon.png
gengar.png
golbat.png
golduck.png
golem.png
gyarados.png
hypno.png
jynx.png
kabutops.png
machamp.png
magmar.png
magneton.png
moltres.png
muk.png
nidoqueen.png
ninetales.png
parasect.png
pidgeot.png
pinsir.png
poliwrath.png
primeape.png
slowbro.png
snorlax.png
starmie.png
tangela.png
tauros.png
vileplume.png
zapdos.png


New to Ultra Violet:
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lapras.png
tentacruel.png


Aerodactyl, Alakazam, Arbok, Articuno, Beedrill, Blastoise, Butterfree, Chansey, Charizard, Cloyster, Dragonite, Dugtrio, Electabuzz, Electrode, Exeggutor, Flareon, Gengar, Golbat, Golduck, Golem, Gyarados, Hypno, Jynx, Kabutops, Lapras, Machamp, Magmar, Magneton, Moltres, Muk, Nidoqueen, Ninetales, Parasect, Pidgeot, Pinsir, Poliwrath, Primeape, Slowbro, Snorlax, Starmie, Tangela, Tauros, Tentacruel, Vileplume, Zapdos

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Type Changes

blastoise.png
Blastoise - Water / Ground

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Move Changes

Glare: 100% Accuracy.
Gust: 33% chance to lower Attack.
Whirlwind: 95 BP, 100 Acc Flying-type. [Only Butterfree, Golbat, and Pidgeot have access to it. Not yet implemented server-side]

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Stat/Movepool Changes

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Machamp - 100/140/100/65/55 | +10/+10/+20/0/0
muk.png
Muk - Learns Surf, Transform
pinsir.png
Pinsir - Learns Earthquake, Rock Slide
primeape.png
Primeape - 65/105/60/60/135 | 0/0/0/0/+40

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- 1 Pokemon Teams
- RBY 1U Rules plus:
- Sleep Moves (Spore, Lovely Kiss, Hypnosis, Sing, Sleep Powder) are banned.
- Self-KO Clause
- Partial Trapping Moves (Wrap, Clamp, Fire Spin, Bind) are banned.
- Accuracy-Lowering Moves (Sand Attack, Flash, Kinesis) are banned.
 
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