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Pokémon Pokemon without TM's

Discussion in 'Chat' started by Roostur, May 4, 2019.

  1. Roostur

    Roostur Member

    Dec 20, 2016
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    How would pokemon, more specifically gen 1, be if tm's weren't allowed? At first glance it looks like a lot of pokemon would become more viable.
  2. Enigami

    Enigami Moderator

    Apr 24, 2015
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    I think there'd be a lot less viable Pokemon than you think.

    A TON of Pokemon are reliant on TMs/HMs for their movesets, most learnsets are trash in gen 1. Tauros' best attack is Stomp, and has no coverage. Rhydon has no STAB. Moltres' only Fire-type move is Fire Spin. Chansey only has Normal coverage. Need I go on?

    It could be interesting, but basically everything is going to centralize around the 3 best Psychics (Alakazam & Starmie still have recover, Jynx still has Lovely Kiss) & the most viable of the precious few paralysis inducers left (Jolteon, Dragonite, Snorlax, Lapras, Jynx again EDIT: also Tangela, Eggy, Victreebel & Parasect, forgot about the Stun Spore mons some reason). The rest would be the few Pokemon remaining that aren't completely screwed over by their learnsets (such as Zapdos, Porygon, Pinsir, Golem).
    Last edited: May 10, 2019
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  3. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Catto of Furr and Power Member

    May 4, 2014
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    Chansey Body Slam vs. Alakazam: 54-64 (17.2 - 20.4%) -- possible 5HKO
    Chansey Body Slam vs. Jynx: 59-70 (17.7 - 21%) -- possible 5HKO

    tbf vs these two mons, chansey is doing similar damage to what it does with special attacks. Not sure it's totally unviable?

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