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GSC OU (OverUsed) Mass Exodus of GSC teams (THE BEST TEMA)

Discussion in 'Public Teams' started by Lojh, Aug 5, 2018.

  1. Lojh

    Lojh I worship BORAT Member

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    Hi. I've noticed that there is a lack of resources for gsc, so here is the first of a long line of instalments on gsc stall teams. I will be posting a rather common stall team that I made independently of others and has become one of my most confident teams. I'm sure a few of you will recognize it. The team was built when I sucked at the game but made me rather good. The process is rather bad.

    Building process:

    Snorlax

    This was a no-brainer, as it's easily the best Pokemon in the meta. Because I had 0 creativity at the time, I used a ST curselax set. Snorlax is too good to not use in gsc.

    Snorlax/Zapdos

    I had read in a few articles at the time that the electrics were broken, and Zapdos felt like the natural pick as it had better Special attack and immunity to spikes. I used a Thunder/Hpwater/rest/roar set. It was a reasonably decent set.

    Snorlax/Zapdos/Tyranitar

    As I was using monolax, I decided to run a pursuit tyranitar. Tyrianitar gave the team offense to work with and with pursuit could damage threats like fortress and starmie and egg. I ran Pursuit/Thunderbolt/Crunch/Roar. Thunderbolt worked surprisingly well against Cloyster.

    Snorlax/Zapdos/Tyranitar/Foretress

    I needed a spiker. Spikes was to be my win condition, so I needed a spiker. Foretress was toxic-immune, and could take a thunder. It fit rather well on the team and could boom if nessary whilst also spinning. I had used Toxic as my fourth moveslot so I could chip away at things and put cloy+starmie on a timer.

    Snorlax/Zapdos/Tyranitar/Foretress/Suicune/Raikou

    Suicuine and Raikou were the sleep-talkers on the team with snorlax. These two provided excelent walling capacity, absorbed status, and threatened stuff. Cune was toxic and with toxic could chip things and zapdos could roarchain with incredible damage. Raikou formed a formidable dual electric core with zapdos that shattered offense.

    Snorlax/Skarmory/Tyranitar/Foretress/Suicune/Raikou

    As good as zapdos was for the team, I was having lax problems. The fact that both my normal resits didn't have recovery meant that my stall was on a timer, and normal was a scary good typing. Skarmory couldn't roarchain like zapdos, so I switched kou to roar and gave it hidden power water over hidden power ice. I realized that Snorlax didn't need sleeptalk so I switched it to Drum to beat vaporeon, a new problem now I lost zap. This is where I became reasonably good and the team was pretty solid.

    Snorlax/Skarmory/Tyranitar/Foretress/Starmie/Raikou

    I was losing the spikes war more times than I liked to lose it. Cune wasn't pulling it’s weight, forry got spinblocled even with tyranitar. Starmie worked. I ran thunder on Star to Mitigate the ever pertinent vap problem. Thunder also annihilated cloy. Once I lost cune, I had to switch lax back to ST because I was losing to status. Starmie also walled champ, which rocks.

    Snorlax/Skarmory/Umbreon/Foretress/Starmie/Raikou

    I hated st lax now, as it wasn't as good as I pretended it was. Curselax doesn't sweep anything, and was mediocre. I had also caught a few players using Lk curselax, which looked pretty broken. I Decided to take it a notch further and use LK Drumlax, which was amazing. Umbreon became my sleeptalker, and was very good at walling. It didn't even get 3HKOed by raikou’s thunder. Pursuit wasn't the same, and I felt a hole in offense. Drumlax patched the hole, but not enough.

    Snorlax/Skarmory/Umbreon/Foretress/Suicune/Raikou

    I liked the concept of Toxic umbreon, and suicune filled in as the Resttalker on the team. Toxic umbreon became an Instant hit. Toxic hit so many pokemon, such as starmie, cloyster, exeguttor, tyranitar, etc. Suicune became resttalk-roar, which gave me 3 phazers and added utility. Vap was hardwalled, nido not a problem, ttar roarchained, etc. This became my go to team at times, and had a good matchup everywhere except for one team that I hated. Using this team, I became rather decent at the game and sceptross has this exact team in his builder and he named it Lojh stall. Fact. Even though it all existed, people attributed it to me. About that one matchup…

    I hated rest-missy. It blocked spin, and restlooped umb. Talking to a dear friend FOMG, he gave me advice that shook the earth.

    ----------Mixlax Era--------

    Fomg told me about restmixlax. I loved it. The specific set was Snorlax with thunder, eq, STAB, and rest. It threatened the missystalls that gave me a headache. Drumlax’s disaperance was noticeable, but mixlax was godly. After the transition to mixlax, a few things happened.

    Snorlax/Skarmory/Umbreon/Cloyster/Suicune/Raikou

    I noticed once forry won the spikes war, it did nothing. It’s boom was predictable, and it was not pulling it’s weight. Cloyster was amazing because it could use surf. With surf, it did things. It also could toxic things and surf beat forry. Ice beam/surf was a coin flip, but cloy found a lot of free turns I usually opt for ice beam to freeze things. It is 50-50 however, as surf chips cloys.

    Snorlax/Skarmory/Umbreon/Cloyster/Starmie/Raikou

    Starmie retest #2. Aforementioned reasons, umb became sleep talk. I personally loved it, but I missed my toxic. Cloy now toxiced things. This worked. But Starmie was too susceptible to status for my taste.

    Snorlax/Skarmory/Umbreon/Cloyster/Zapdos/Raikou

    This is the final product. I know that this has been made countless times before me. I “made” it too. Made is a relative term. Zapdos fit perfectly. Sleep talk on zap this time, but the rest is the same. It did amazing damage, kinda mitigated the electric weakness, and most importantly, WAS IMMUNE TO SPIKES. Its actually one of the greatest pokemon, and solved the newly rediscovered vap problem. Dual electric had a field day with offense.

    Importable:

    Arti¢uno (Zapdos) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Pressure
    IVs: 26 Def
    - Sleep Talk
    - Rest
    - Thunder
    - Hidden Power [Ice]

    Bli$$ey (Skarmory) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Keen Eye
    - Drill Peck
    - Whirlwind
    - Curse
    - Rest

    Pi¢hu (Raikou) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Pressure
    - Thunderbolt
    - Roar
    - Reflect
    - Rest

    $wagger (Umbreon) (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Synchronize
    - Toxic
    - Charm
    - Rest
    - Pursuit

    Laxative (Snorlax) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Immunity
    - Double-Edge
    - Thunder
    - Earthquake
    - Rest

    ️OOM (Cloyster) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Shell Armor
    - Surf
    - Toxic
    - Spikes
    - Rapid Spin

    Im not teaching you how to play it. Do well at the game. GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY.
     
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  2. FriendOfMrGolem120

    FriendOfMrGolem120 aka. "FOMG" Member

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    The STAB move for that set is usually Double Edge. Since you don't have any setup move you should choose the strongest STAB. Return could be used as well (especially when you want to bluff a different set like LK-Drum) but with that move it gets even harder to break through so I don't recommend it.
    Fire Blast / Flamethrower can also be used instead of Thunder depending if you want to have more coverage for Cloyster or Forretress (/Steelix).
    What set did you use? If Ice Beam is your only attacking move (or Ice Beam + HpElectric) you will struggle against Forretress. Rest is an interesting option to make the team better against other stall teams but against offense it is usually quite useless.
     
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  3. Lojh

    Lojh I worship BORAT Member

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    Ah I fish for freezes with ice beam. Surf does help more than ib most of the time, but due to the slow pacedness of the team ice beam was usable. Both work. It was just ib toxic spin spikes. On ladder I've been using surf a lot and it does seem more solid, but freezing things is fun. Rest also is cool, but i don't like it without a beller b/c cloy is a pain to wake up. Beller+cloy is hard to beat with toxiccloy, but I have 4 pokes that threaten cloy so its not that bad. I forgot how I dealt with forry with ice beam, I think it was just spikes roaring and chipping because forry is susceptible to chip. I'm in a surf phase atm. I never used rest I think its a brain fart


    Edit: use firelax with ice beam.
     
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    Jame$ G Member

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    So who did actually make this team lol? Rooster says Borat, i've heard Lavos claim originality to it, and now you? I don't really understand the point of the tweeks you've done here? The point of that team is to use a kiss lax for the sweeping/wall breaking ability and the rest of the team is the defensive/setup framework, umbreon hunts the ghosts so that lax can do the footwork. How do you fight other stall teams with this? How do you break walls if the opponent is stalling back? I also don't understand what body slam is doing on that lax? What are you aiming to paralyze and why? And what is pursuit umbreon for? I've looked at this over & over and I just can't figure out what you're trying to hunt with that thing?
     
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  5. Lojh

    Lojh I worship BORAT Member

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    I didnt make the team, I just figured it out. I’m not really claiming to have made it. One of the points I’m making is that most of the ideas have been found out already. Mixlax is a threat to most other stalls and toxic charmbreon hurts both cloy and starmie, which helps for winning the spikes war. With kiss lax i would lose to missdreavus stalls because umbreon’s pursuit is weak. Breaking walls comes down to spikes chip with roar, and a little bit of luck. I use double edge lax, using body slam on lax should be used on offenses with slow hard-hitters like machamp and marrowak. Pursuit umbreon is great because it can be assigned to any threat (bar drumlax/marrowak/few others) and completely shut them down, while also sniping cloyster and starmie. I cant call them tweaks to the original team, because i didnt know about the original team while building/playtesting. If the opponent is stalling back usually they make predictable plays and with double switches/roar you can put their walls in an awful spot.
     
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