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GSC OU (OverUsed) Gold Demo Base Stats

Discussion in 'Tiers' started by Disaster Area, May 31, 2018.

  1. Disaster Area

    Disaster Area Little Ball of Fur and Power Member

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    Today an original demo version of Pokemon Gold was leaked on 4chan. One interesting thing about it was that the original RBY 151 had different base stats to the final version of GSC, and the differences are laid out in this spreadsheet (link). So this thread is for theorymonning what GSC OU would be like if the base stat changes were put into effect. (I've asked Enigami on the PP Discord if he could make it playable on the PP server by the way)

    Notable changes (GSC --> Demo):
    Snorlax: 110 SpD --> 100 SpD (nerf)
    Cloyster: 45 SpD --> 70 SpD
    Vaporeon: 110 SpA --> 70 SpA, 95 SpD --> 110 SpD
    Exeggutor: 65 SpD --> 75 SpD
    Nidoking: 85 SpA --> 55 SpA (nerf)
    Rhydon: 45 SpD --> 70 SpD
    Jolteon: 110 SpA --> 70 SpA, 95 SpD --> 110 SpD
    Jynx: 115 SpA -->95, 95 SpD --> 80 (nerf)
    Golem: 65 SpD --> 80 SpD
    Alakazam: 85 SpD --> 95 SpD
    Nidoqueen: 75 SpA --> 55 SpA, 85 SpD --> 75 SpD (nerf)

    (Also far less notably, Gyarados, Lapras, Poliwrath, Venomoth, and some others get buffed too, Muk, Victreebel both gain and lose, Charizard nerfed)

    Of the additional Pokemon released in gen 2, well, not all of them were included or named the same in the demo version, and the stats given to most of the gen 2 pokemon in the demo are clearly not finalised (most pokemon have 50 in every stat), as you can see here.

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    We have now coded onto the PP server a metagame which is GSC OU except these changes are now included:
    - the Pokemon released in RBY, as well as Ho-Oh, Raikou, Suicune, and Entei, have the base stats listed in the Demo
    - Leftovers follows the Demo mechanics (heals 30 HP per turn)
    - Pokemon Type Changes:
    Pokemon | Type (Demo) | Type (GSC)
    Magneton (and Magnemite) | Electric | Electric/Steel
    Bellossom | Grass/Poison | Grass
    Scizor | Bug/Flying| Bug/Steel
    Noctowl | Flying | Normal/Flying
    Umbreon | Poison | Dark
    Sunflora | Grass/Psychic | Grass
    Ho-Oh | Flying | Fire/Flying
    Quagsire | Water | Water/Ground
    Smoochum | Ice | Ice/Psychic
    Delibird | Water/Ice | Ice/Flying
    Houndoom (and Houndour) | Fire | Fire/Dark
    Snubbul | Psychic | Normal
    Sneasel | Dark | Dark/Ice
    - Ho-Oh is legal (at least for now)
    - Legendaries have genders
    - Type Chart Changes:
    Steel:
    - Weaknesses: Water, Electric
    - Resistances: Poison, Fighting, Rock
    - Immunities: Steel
    - Offensively: SE vs Rock, NVE vs Water, Electric, does not affect Steel

    Dark:
    - Weaknesses: Normal, Dark, Bug
    - Resistances: Psychic, Ghost
    - Offensively: SE vs Psychic, Dark, Ghost, NVE vs Normal

    Electric:
    resists Water
    Ghost: neutral to Ghost
    Bug: weak to Poison
     
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2018
  2. Enigami

    Enigami Moderator

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    Now playable on the Pokemon Perfect server.

    Will try to implement item changes and the like soon, presently only base stats are changed
     
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2018
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  3. Ortheore

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    This is really interesting lol. I haven't got much to say but that Suicune sprite reminded me of that thing from Full Metal Alchemist ;_;
     
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