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RBY OU / 1U (OverUsed) Best Late Game RBY Duo

Discussion in 'Analysis and Research' started by j2dahop, Mar 9, 2018.

  1. j2dahop

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    I've been conducting an experiment to find out which RBY Pokemon duo would have the largest endgame advantage over any OU duo. In doing so, I've been using hyper aggro teams where 4 of my Pokemon boom into 4 opponents Pokemon. Playing this way usually makes one of my final two mon a fast revenge killer, in case boom didn't finish the job. This usually leaves my final two Pokemon with no status effects and my opponent's final two Pokemon with no status either.
    I found that the biggest way to secure an advantage is through gaining sleep. This made choices like Gengar, Jynx, Veunsaur, Victreebel, and Hypno have the largest advantage over most OU Pokemon you'd find at the end of a game. Or in the very least, they could push. I'm still in the early stages of testing but have had success so far with duos like Jynx and Jolteon, or Gengar and Tauros.

    All that being said, I'm interested to hear your thoughts and suggestions on the best duo for a 2v2 end game. I'll also be posting and saving all replays using the suggestions and will update this thread with the alternate names I choose for each duo.
     
  2. Enigami

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    "4 of your Pokemon"? Guessing that means Cloyster/Snorlax/Exeggutor/Golem is the rest of your team, since you mention Gengar as one of your late game duos. How do you handle the lead game, or opposing sleepers?
     
  3. j2dahop

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    Snorlax, egg, and cloyster are correct. It'll usually have Gengar lead if it's not in the duo. If Gengar is in the final two then it's an Electrode lead.

    In the game's I've played so far the most important aspect has been to boom on egg before it can sleep something. After an early boom from me, I can either throw one of the sleepers I mentioned to outspeed egg and put it to sleep, or use Cloyster to clamp or Electrode to boom on eggy. Electrodes explosion is very underwhelming but it'll leave egg in range to get revenge killed at the very least.

    I haven't seen much nonlead Jynx, Gengar or Sing users.
     
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    I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say that Tauros and Zap would prove to be the best lategame duo. That or Tauros+ReflectZam, though the latter faces issues with Bro

    That said, by bypassing the status metagame in this manner, your testing loses its ability to truly represent actual games- late game sleep is pretty rare outside a hyper aggro boom offense because usually your opponent will either have a sleeping mon, or one or more paralysed pokemon to block sleep. That said, I'd be interested in seeing how your teams and their style fares in general, since it sounds very unique
     
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    Leading with Eggy would be interesting - you could try to land sleep and then play your aggro boom like normal. If you're reasonably careful about getting your opponent to switch, you COULD end up with 4 opponent mons boomed away and one already asleep. Even if you can't get that to work quite right (they use their sleeper as boom fodder, or it wakes up), it's no harm no foul to your original plan anyway. Have you experimented with that approach - landing sleep first, then going aggro?
     
  6. j2dahop

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    I'll give leading Eggy a try to see how it differs and how often I come across lead Jynx. I'm still working out the 4 boomers but have been loving the crit booms from Gengar and Electrode. Jynx would obviously gain sleep on turn 1 with lead eggy so I'll have to figure out who will be slept. However if Jynx lead is only used 15% - 20% of the time then I guess it isn't a bad strategy. So far I've found it easy with Gengar and Electrode as they are fast and will pop off a speedy boom before being slept. Electrode is a bit tougher to use as most opponents instantly switch to a rock. I've learned to twave first with electrode as it will then allow me to play around an opponents rock, or get off a quick boom if there isn't one.

    And thanks Ortheore I'll give reflect Zam and Zap/Bully a try once I get the boom playstyle down. I still find myself playing quite traditionally and firing off normal attacking moves instead of booming early and getting to the 2v2.

    I'll post replays once it's closer.
     
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